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D. Hill: I actually enjoy comedy; it’s a lot of fun. After doing seven years of drama on West Wing to be able to come and work with Roday and the rest of the cast has been a blast. It’s something different, especially working with Roday where he likes to improv a lot it challenges me to work on different muscles that I haven’t used before. J. Roday: Well, first of all I just want to thank you for reminding me that I did in fact appear in Fear Itself; I often forget that. Secondly, I would say I’ve actually done a lot more comedy than I’ve done drama. It’s weird the way that worked out, because when I came out of theater school I took myself way too seriously, so it’s kind of ironic that I ended up sort of going down the comedy path. But I think what makes this role special compared to some of the other stuff that I’ve done is just the fact that I’ve had the opportunity to live with it so long and sort of watch it sort of grow and nurture it, not unlike you nurture a plant. And working with a great group and an unbelievable cast and sort of having the freedom to do what we do on the show sort of sets it apart from any role that I’ve played, comedy or drama. It’s just been a special ride. It’s been a special ride.

Our next question is from Traci Grant with TheStarScoop.com. Basically, this is for both of you; the show is known a lot for its kind of fast-paced banter between your characters Shawn and Gus. And so what I want to know is how much sort of say do you guys get in what goes on in the dialog, particularly between the humorous segments and something like the nicknames that Shawn makes up for Gus? What goes on with those types of moments?

J. Roday: Unlike, I think, the majority of shows on television right now we actually have a frighteningly high amount of say in what we do with the dialog. A lot of times it comes in great and all we have to do is say it, but any time we sort of recognize an opportunity to throw something in or add something or if we have a better name for Gus than the one that came in we just pull the trigger. We’re pretty good at monitoring ourselves so that we only do it if we’re making it better, and it’s very rare that we find out later that the people down in LA were disappointed because we changed something. They’re usually pretty pleased.

D. Hill: Yes. And the names that we come up with most of the time it has to do with somebody that we know, somebody in the cast knows or somebody that one of the writers knows or a producer, something like that. I would say pretty much eight times to of ten there is some relation to the crazy name that Gus is being called.

Jessica Mahn with Fan Bolt.com. This question is for both of you. What detectives, in real life or in fiction, have been an influence for the characters?

J. Roday: You know what, I go to this movie called Without a Clue that not a lot of people saw. It was Michael Caine and Ben Kingsley, and the idea behind the movie was that Watson was the brains of the operation and Holmes was just this very theatrical sort of charlatan that diverted people’s attention and got all the ladies. It’s a very, very funny movie that not a lot of people have seen. But I love the fact that it was sort of rooted in the idea that these two guys absolutely, positively were dependent on one another to solve a crime, because Holmes was sort of the face of the franchise but Watson was the guy that sort of kept their feet on the ground and did a lot of the thinking. That’s not exactly what the dynamic is on Psych, but the sort of ying yang element of it of there’s no way that either of these guys could work on their own and there’s no way that they could accomplish what they were doing without the other one is definitely sort of a big element of what we do on Psych. So that’s my answer. I feel decent about it. I’m passing it off to Dulé.

D. Hill: I guess for myself it’s not any real I guess template that I came in to with a preconceived notion about like in terms of a previous detective team. I guess if I had to choose one I would say Cosby and Poitier in Uptown Saturday Night. I want to say that would be the equivalence that I could think of, but besides that there’s not really anything that I’ve thought about before to say yes, this is what the template is.

Our next question is from Tiffany D’Emidio with Eclipse Magazine. I really enjoy the pop culture references that you make in the series, and I just wondered if you could be in any television show of the past which would it be? Or if you could spoof a show as an episode what would it be?

J. Roday: Well, my answer is one in the same. I would have given anything to be on Twin Peaks, and if we last another season we will be doing a Twin Peaks episode. So there you go.

D. Hill: I guess for myself if I could have been a Cosby kid. Yes, of course. If I could have been on Cosby that would have been great for me. And I guess if we could spoof any show I would say maybe Fame; I could be Leroy.

Lauren Tucker with Small Screen Monthly. If you could investigate anybody who would it be?

J. Roday: I think I might have to just really roll up my sleeves and investigate Monica Bellucci and just make sure that she’s living her life along the straight and narrow, she’s not cutting any corners in life, in her work; just really get in there and make sure that she’s on the up and up.

D. Hill: And from my side I would investigate Halle Bear, who is also Halle Berry.

J. Roday: That’s it; this is classy stuff you’re getting from us today.

Our next question is from Christine Nyholm with examiner.com. My question is it just seems like you have a blast; the show is so fun to watch. And I was wondering if the show is as much fun to shoot as it is to watch?

D. Hill/J.Roday: Yes. /Absolutely.

J. Roday: I like different ones for so many different reasons, but I can say that for me personally, just as an actor, I think the most fun I’ve ever had on our show was an episode called Life’s Camera Homicidio when my character got thrust into the world of a Spanish telenovela and I got to improvise in both English and Spanish. That was a blast.

D. Hill: Well I guess for that episode I guess Roday to be able to improvise in Spanish he was getting in touch with his roots so he was really excited about that. But for myself it would still have to go back to American Duos. I just can’t help it, I just loved dressing up as Michael Jackson and being able to do a moonwalk, have John Landis direct me while I’m dressed up as Michael Jackson in Thriller. And there was a crowd there, too, so you can’t really beat that. You can’t really beat that. That’s one of my all time favorite experiences on Psych.

Our next question is from Suzanne Lanoue with TV MegaSite. I was going to ask you if you had any things that you could tell us about this upcoming season, whatever you feel free to share either overall or specifics about what we can expect this season.

J. Roday: In terms of sort of themes for episodes you saw that we’re doing sort of an expedition Canada, catch a jewel/art thief episode, and we’re doing sort of a Shawn and Gus save an old western town and everything that comes along with that that you could imagine, including a grizzled, gray bearded James Brolin.

D. Hill: Exorcism episode.

J. Roday: Yes, we’re paying tribute to the Exorcist with our exorcism episode featuring the aforementioned Ray Wise, who is just fantastic in the episode I have to say. Just really came in and knocked it out of the park.

D. Hill: American Werewolf in London homage.

J. Roday: That’s right, a little love letter to American Werewolf in London and werewolf movies in general featuring David Naughton, obviously, and Josh Malina. And lots of other fun stuff. I have to say I think we’re kind of storming out of our gates this year with some really good stuff. I think last year we stormed in our heads, but we were actually like trotting at a casual pace, and this year I actually think we’re storming out of the gates for real.

And Alix Sternberg at thetvchick.com. (Me!) How does becoming co-producers affect your roles on the show?

D. Hill: I don’t know what Roday thinks, but from my side I don’t think it really changes that much. I think from the beginning of the show the dynamic has pretty much been what it is. Maybe say from Roday’s side he may write a few more episodes, but he was already writing episodes anyway. From my side I would think it’s more of a title; it hasn’t really changed the actual working dynamic that much. Maybe a little bit changes, but nothing too major.

J. Roday: Yes. I think, like Dulé said, the dynamic was sort of set from the first season. Because none of our producers are up in Vancouver with us it was just sort of a necessary thing that we take on a little more responsibility to help the show sort of run smoothly. They finally decided to throw us a title for it.

Kristyn Clarke with popculturemadness.com. Which one of you is the most like your character on the series or are you completely different?

J. Roday: I think we’re both pretty different. I do. I think that’s one of the things that is really cool about our show is that we have as much fun as we do, A, and B, we get to play characters that are pretty different from our real life personas.

D. Hill: But actually going back to someone’s previous question about useless information I would say that Roday is more like Gus in that area, especially with film trivia, ‘80s trivia. He and Steve Franks can lift off songs on an album. I guess—

J. Roday: I have the trunk of useless knowledge.

D. Hill: Yes.

Karen Jackson with Starpulse.com. I was wondering you guys have such great chemistry on the show does that come naturally?

D. Hill: I think so; I think it comes naturally. From the time we first got together there was a good vibe there, and we’ve had a cast that continued to grow with it. I think even off screen we get along very well. The cast as a whole we like hanging out with each, making each other laugh, going out having dinner, playing poker, playing mafia. It’s just us up there in Vancouver, so if we didn’t get along then I think it would show itself on screen. So I would say it comes pretty natural.

J. Roday: I agree with all of that.

Courtney Shink with Raked Reviews. I think there’s a danger in comedy when you go across a number of seasons that you could become predictable or stale. How do you guys keep this show so fresh?

J. Roday: It’s a good question, and I think part of the answer is that all of us, from producers to writers to actors and everybody, is sort of hyper aware of what you just said. You couldn’t have a group that was sort of more acutely aware of not getting complacent, of recognizing how important it is to not become predictable and to not get stale, because it happens to so many other shows. And so when we go to break stories and we’re on set it sort of pushes us, quite frankly, to not settle for stuff that feels like it could be better and that’s sort of the way we’ve been treating the show from the beginning. And while it may get more and more challenging the longer that we last the truth is we don’t ever want to be considered one of those shows that dropped off after season blank and then was just sort of on autopilot until the end. And I don’t think anyone will ever sort of break in that regard; we’ll always continue to challenge each other and make sure that everybody is working as hard as they possibly can.

D. Hill: And I think it’s very easy to, I guess, just to do what you think works. I think, as Roday was saying, we keep challenging ourselves to keep raising the bar, to keep staying engaged, and even as the actors on the set to keep staying connected and staying alive each time we do it. And then also I think certain things we try to make sure we don’t run certain things to the ground, like Gus is not going to run screaming out every episode. After you find yourself doing certain things for a while you kind of say okay, let’s go someplace else with it to keep the characters alive.

J. Roday: Absolutely.

Rafe Telsh with WidescreenWarrior.com. Both of you play characters who are more complicated than they first appear, like it would be easy to play Shawn as just this grifting slacker but there’s more to him than that. What do each of you think is your character’s most difficult trait to capture and what moment in the show has allowed that character element to shine?

J. Roday: Well that’s very insightful and thoughtful indeed. For me I would say the most challenging thing about playing Shawn is the tight wire act between slacker and man child, and then also somebody that you really do want to invest in emotionally and like every week. And the line between wanting to rub his head and sl
ap his face is very, very, very thin. And sort of walking that line and always knowing when to stop is sort of the most challenging on a day-to-day basis. In terms of like a single event that sort of helped me with that I would say probably when we brought Shawn’s mother onto the show, first episode of season three. Kind of we peeled back a layer that I think by tapping into it has allowed that sort of tight wire act to get a little easier just because you sort of saw a side of him that was way vulnerable that he didn’t have complete control over. And once we sort of put that out there I think it made things a little bit easier in terms of the balancing act.

D. Hill: And then just for myself is one I don’t I guess get too cerebral with my character, so I don’t really think about it like that too often. I guess when a question comes up it makes me think about it, but in my day-to-day action on the set I don’t really process it I just do it. I would say I guess for me it would be that Gus to not make him too nerdy but not make him too cool, because he is a nerd. But at the same time you want him to be cool also, and I think too far in either direction would change the dynamic of the show. So it’s always trying to find that balance of cool nerdiness or nerdy coolness or something like that. That would be my answer to that.

Eleanor Greeley with Spoiler TV. So in season three we got to see a lot more of the serious side of the characters. Are we going to get more of that in season four?
D. Hill: Definitely.

J. Roday: Yes, a little bit. You don’t ever want to go too far in that direction, because I think people have plenty of shows that they watch to watch people be serious. I think at the end of the day it’s always going to be important for us to mostly deliver what has made us successful, but there will definitely be episodes this year where you see us flip our serious switches. Gus has a serious jackal switch where it’s still a jackal but it’s a serious jackal.

D. Hill: Yes. That will have to make its way out some time this year.

Traci Grant with TheStarScoop.com. So what I want to know is if people haven’t started watching Psych yet why should they tune in now?

D. Hill: Well there’s so much serious stuff going on in the world I think it’s a great show to come and sit back, put your feet up, and laugh for a little bit; just clear your minds. I think anyone who comes and watches this show definitely laughs out loud at least once, so if you’re looking to just step away from all the stress for a second then I would say check out Psych. You know we’re like kids in a candy store, and it kind of brings people back to a time in their youth when people just dared to do anything, and that’s what we do on Psych.

J. Roday: And there are so few rules that we have to follow in terms of making this show. I don’t think there are a lot of other shows out there where one week you’re wearing chaps and spurs and riding a horse and the next week you’re running from a potato sack headed killer chasing you into the woods with a machete, and yet you’re still laughing both times. I think it’s a pretty unique little hybrid; it has something for everyone.

I recently got a chance to sit down with the four stars of Make It Or Break It, and chat about their characters, the drama and what we might see in the rest of the season. Here is the fourth and final part in the series (last but certainly not least)–my interview with Josie Loren, who plays Kaylie Cruz.

First of all, I have to say, I really love the show.
Oh good, I’m glad.

Tell us a little bit about Kaylie. She’s sort of the rebel of the group.
I know. It’s so funny because she is the rebel, but it’s not like she has this like terribly rebellious personality. She’s just crazy in love and will do some things that I guess are a bit out of character. She’s the only girl who kind of has—an internal conflict I guess. The other girls know pretty much what they want and they’re very determined. All three of them know that gymnastics is their life…they eat, sleep and breathe it. Kaylie’s kind of torn between wanting to be a gymnast and wanting to be just a normal, regular sixteen year old teenager. And you see her struggle with that all the time, which you don’t see from the other girls. Everybody has their own struggles but Kaylie’s are unique.

She has very overbearing parents.
Exactly. She has some parental issues. And that’s another thing that Kaylie’s going to have to struggle with. It’s going to come to the point where she has to make a choice and decide why she’s doing what she’s doing. She has to realize, is it for herself or is it for her parents. And make the choice of—this is what I want, or this is not what I want. Because as of right now, the episodes that you’ve seen—she’s kind of doing it for her father.

Kaylie especially likes to break the rules. How do you keep your character true to life?
Well, I think every teenager goes through their phases. Especially being sixteen, you have a lot of roles in your household, and you’re living with your parents, and you’re getting to that stage where you want to be more independent but you have so much holding you back and so there are times when you probably don’t make the best decisions like having your boyfriend sneak into your room (laughs). But I think everybody can relate to that I mean because I’m no longer a teenager but I remember wanting to rebel a little bit. Most of the time I definitely did not, I was a good kid, but you still have that desire to.

A lot is expected of elite gymnasts—did you talk to any before you started filming? Did you research gymnastics?
Oh definitely. The show had us working out with a personal trainer a month and a half before the show started and she was very knowledgeable about the world of gymnastics. We would watch so many Youtube videos of world class gymnasts, Olympic gymnasts, and then we were able to meet a lot of our doubles before we started shooting. And our doubles are these fantastic athletes. Some of them are like three time national champions, others have been in the Olympics. It’s just incredible what they’ve achieved and we got to speak to them and we learned a lot from them. We definitely did our research before.

Have you learned any gymnastics skills while you’ve been filming?

So can you give us a little teaser—what we might see from Kaylie in the rest of the season and in the 2nd season?
I’m really bad at giving a teaser without giving it away. Usually my teasers are pretty terrible. I will say that there is a twist as the season progresses with Kaylie. She (laughs) this is so hard—she steps it up and makes some decisions and stands up for herself.

Are we going to see more of the Carter/Kaylie/Lauren love triangle?

Thank you so much.
No problem.

Be sure to tune in tonight for a new episode of Make It Or Break It. Also, vote for them under the category of Summer TV for the Teen Choice Awards! I’m so excited they were picked up for another 10 episodes, and cannot wait to see what develops.